by Rikky Lee Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:45 am, Post Great penetration and expansion. Out of Stock. I use the guns. the cartridge base. Unfortunately, no. . document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. As stoutly as it thumps you, it hammers what it hits. So, for the .458 SOCOM, Marty and Tony Rumore of Tromix chose lengthened .50 AE cases and had the brass maker trim the rims down from the .50 AE diameter of .514 to .473 inch. Bullets are seated out too far for revolver use. Teppo Jutsu saw no need to change the primer pocket. With this load, unlike our other sub-sonic load, I had to adjust my gas port to get the action to reliably cycle. Do not contact us and ask to change an order youve already placed. In my 16 inch Wilson Combat AR, the average velocity was 1,115 fps. by Artful Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:23 pm, Post The guns eat lead. The bullet is designed to perform optimally at subsonic velocities to ranges of 100 + yds with upto 3X expansion and nearly 100% weight retention. He is a published fiction and non-fiction writer, earned his pilots license in 1965, and is the original founder of Reload Ammo in 1996. The heavier than standard grain weight and subsonic speeds make this cartridge well-suited for use with suppressors. After the design was completed, Tony Rumore of Tromix Corp in Broken Arrow, OK was contacted to build the first prototype. SBR Ammunition SBR 458 SOCOM Subsonic Ammo 500 Grain Full Metal Jacket. That For hunting medium to large game, bullets in the 250 grain- 400 grain weight range possess devastating killing power. The noise, not so much. Field tests have shown to knock Whitetail deer to the ground with authority andinflictlarge exit wounds. In order for us to accomplish this for our customers, we ask the following. PacNor will do a .458 barrel in a 6 groove 1:8 or an 8 groove 1:10. 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I was shooting my custom 458 Socom Bolt Action. by Bendersquint Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:40 am, Post I'd probably Form 1 a titanium can. After the design was completed, Tony Rumore of Tromix Corp in Broken Arrow, OK was contacted to build the first prototype. The 458 SOCOM cartridge offers the practical ballistics of the legendary .45-70 in a modern AR platform rifle and is capable of firing 250 to 600 grain .458 caliber bullets in a lightweight, controllable package. HARD CAST GC FN (1115 fps)20 Round Box. Today, we are the leading manufacturer of factory loaded 458 SOCOM with over 22 different loads available. by Wicked Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:48 am, Post Also, in late 2020, the CIP Committee reached out to SBR about the 458 SOCOM, and in November 2021 the 458 SOCOM was CIP approved. Join the exclusive reloading community founded in 1996 and be the first to know about our latest news, reviews, and insights. A master gunsmith, Patrick is also Handguns Editor for Guns & Ammo magazine. chamber pressure and still fall within bolt thrust limits. Our hunting loads for. Old handguard off (so old its a quad-rail) and old barrel out. Looking for more .458 SOCOM ammunition choices? The content presented here is intended to inform, to educate, and even to entertain. FREE SHIPPING - PURCHASE 12 OR MORE BOXES, As per popular demand, Buffalo Bore is introducing 7 new 458 SOCOM loads that will fill every possible need 458 SOCOM shooters may have. Item 47CandItem 47D will cleanly take big game animals weighing over 2,000 lbs. Its the standard rim diameter of the .30-06 family of cartridges, along with the 8mm Mauser and such. So please stop asking to exchange or get a refund for ammo you ordered, but have changed your mind about. The guns eat lead. Get the latest news and reviews from Gundigest.com. This subsonic version is great in SBR Brand suppressors. As per popular demand, Buffalo Bore is introducing 7 new 458 SOCOM loads that will fill every possible need 458 SOCOM shooters may have. In 2009, Barnesdeveloped a new bullet specifically for use in the .458 SOCOM, the 300 grainTipped Triple Shock X, also known as the TTSX or TAC-X. .458-405 GRAIN HOLLOW POINT- This bullets lead mushroom measures .550, and the jacket measures .600. Item 47E, a 405 grain Hard Cast, Gas Checked, Flat Nose, Below are the velocities achieved in my personal Wilson Combat 458 SOCOM, with a 16-inch barrel, Hooded Sweatshirt-Gunmetal Heather/Army Heather, Hooded Sweatshirt-Gunmetal Heather/Navy Heather, Hooded Sweatshirt-Charcoal Heather (New & Improved). The cartridge case design was finalized based on discussions with Tony Rumoreat Tromix, Inc. suggesting a lengthened .50 AE case would work well in themagazines as well as be the largest diameter case to be able to feed throughthe barrel extension. And whatever youre shooting at gets thumpedhard. .458-405 GRAIN HOLLOW POINT- This bulletslead mushroom measures .550, and the jacket measures .600. The 458 SOCOM (aka: 11.5x40mm RB) is a large caliber cartridge designed for use on the AR15/M4 platform. The requirements were simple: It had to be an upper, or a rebuild, thatd work on a standard AR-15/M16/M4 lower. I LOVE the 458 Socom round, it is the most fun round I own to shoot. by Wicked Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:36 am, Post Two bucks a pill but they're a thing of beauty. DOES BBA MAKE AMMO TO SAAMI SPECIFICATIONS? And whatever you're shooting at gets thumpedhard. bullets. I am beginning to wonder if they are becoming unstable after 75 yards. If they arent, the shopping cart will not take your order. by Mike1234 Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:07 am, Post A coupla guys are interested - especially a good starting velocity if subsonic needs too fast a barrel twist. I think Brux barrels can make you a barrel in whatever twist you want. SBR 458 SOCOM 550 Grain Subsonic TCJ 20 Rounds | Ammunition Depot ON SALE Ammunition Bulk Ammo Bulk 223 Ammo & Bulk 5.56 Ammo Bulk 9mm Ammo Bulk 45 ACP Ammo Bulk 380 Ammo Bulk 308 Ammo Bulk 7.62x39 Ammo Bulk 22LR Ammo Bulk Pistol Ammo Bulk Rifle Ammo Bulk Shotgun Ammo Handgun Ammo 9mm Ammo 380 Ammo 45 ACP Ammo 38 Special Ammo 40 Cal Ammo Your email address will not be published. My biggest concern is that things will worsen yet more, for a while. Combined with the wide selection of bullets availablein .458 diameter, this cemented the choice of caliber. You can unsubscribe at any time by replying STOP or clicking Since the users wanted bullet choices that left out the usual suspects back in the pre-9/11 days, those rejected being potential cartridges that used pistol bullets. I used this bullet to harvest a deer this fall. If youre using a rifle and a 20-inch barrel, you can step on the heels, or even elbow aside, 2,400 fps. (Yes, Virginia, ammo used to be cheap enough that you could wear out a barrel just by shooting.) I put a GM fast twist 458 barrel in my H&R so I could shoot the heavies subsonic. The noise, not so much. The nose is an open tip design. SBR continues the ballistic research to help take the 458 SOCOM cartridge to the next step as a fully developed CQB weapons platform. Oh, and the magazines? When fired at these relatively low sub-sonic velocities, this bullet will not expand, but will act as a solid and will penetrate deeply. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); The Reloaders Networkfocuses on firearms, shooting sports, reloading, bullet casting, and the related gear and accessories. The rim size was chosen for compatibility with otherplatforms, primarily bolt action rifles, as the .473 diameter rim is arguablythe most common rim size globally (all bolt actions chambered in 7.9257mmMauser, .30-06 Springfield or .308 Winchester share this rim size).The casejust above the rim is .538 in diameter. The 1-22 twist rate is an absolute tack driver with 250gr 325gr bullets commonly used for hunting and is the optimum choice for the Barnes 300gr TAC TX/TTSX SOCOM bullet. HOW WILL THIS (name any) AMMO FEED AND FUNCTION IN MY GUN? Today, we are the leading manufacturer of factory loaded 458 SOCOM with over 22 different loads available. Having the ability to easily adjust your gas volume allows the end user to fine tune their carbine's bolt velocity for a specific loads power. The impetus was an informal ("beer and barbeque") discussion with a . After the design was completed, Tony Rumore of Tromix Skip to the beginning of the images gallery, Copyright 2022 Ammunition Depot, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED, Self Defense, Hunting / Varmint, Duty / LE / Tactical. Literally 1/2 MOA at 50 same at 75. then 100.I am stumped. Well, Marty Ter Weeme was at a backyard barbecue a couple of decades ago with some guys who cant put on their rsums where theyve been and what theyve done. http://www.bing.com/search?q=nuke50&7ADE&FORM=QBLH, Vintage Boxes - Gear, Shell, Case, Primer, Group Buys Design, Active , Waiting and Archives, Closed Buys/Waiting for delivery/in shipment, If this is your first visit, be sure to by Bendersquint Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:00 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Anyone ever experience this sort of thing? The .458 SOCOM is a relatively large round designed for a specialized upperreceiver that can be mounted on any AR-15 pattern rifle. Cycles fine. What really decided the case neck dimension were the heaviest bulletsat 500 or 600 grains, you need a lot of neck tension to keep a bullet in place in the case, even if youre hurling it at less than elephant-whacking velocities. No ammo is tamper proof! The .458 SOCOM was developed by Marty ter Weeme, founder of Teppo Jutsu LLC in 2000. cartridge in recent conflict. For those who want to hunt big game, destroy cars or houses, or do close range sniping with an AR platform firearm, the 458 SOCOM has no equal. there is a throat limit in the 458 SOCOM chamber where it will not accommodate some types of The .458 SOCOM achieves optimum ballistic performance in barrel lengths shorter than 16 so there is no need for longer, less portable barrels. Today, JHP (High Power) In Stock $ 41.99 Backorder 458 SOCOM 300gr. And it is in such a twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air -- however slight -- lest we become unwilling victims of the darkness. posted on May 13, 2021. pressures of 35,000 psi. The question arose because those present had experience at shooting people and werent entirely happy with the results they were getting from the M855. Info from the Lehigh website: Almost same ballistic's as a 22LR High Velocity round, "Trying to tax yourself into prosperity is like standing in a bucket and trying to pick yourself up by the handle." Additionally, The Lancer 20 round 5.56 magazine holds seven SOCOM rounds and the 30 round 5.56 magazine will hold nine. The .450 Bushmaster was designed to use .452-inch projectiles. Editor's Note: This article originally appeared in the June 2021 issue of Gun Digest the Magazine. Best ammunition for rifles and guns for sale. 20ga shell for comparison. Due to Department of Transportation regulations, we cannot accept returns on Ammunition. The 458 SOCOM (aka: 11.5x40mm RB) is a large caliber cartridge designed for use on the AR15/M4 platform. Great for target shooting, plinking, weapon function testing or just breaking in the 458 SOCOM beast. Our extensive testing has found the Lancer L5 AWM magazine to be optimal for this round. The mighty .458 Winchester Magnum only bumps 2,100 fps with the 300-grainers. Maker Solid Copper Hollow Point (SCHP) In Stock $ 45.99 Add to Cart 458 SOCOM 325gr. The .458 SOCOM achieves optimum ballistic performance in barrel lengths shorter than 16 so there is no need for longer, less portable barrels. If youre interested in lower-cost fun thumping, then you can use coated bullets and load subsonic. Game animals. Item 47F----1075 fpsItem 47G----1115 fps, Item47G - Exterior Ballistics Charts for several Muzzle Velocities. Due to this it doesn't have as wide a variety of projectiles to choose from. A 600-grain JSP (which has no hope whatsoever of expanding, just to be clear) in the subsonic velocity region becomes an entertaining range time. Having the ability to easily adjust your gas volume allows the end user to fine tune their carbines bolt velocity for a specific loads power. bullets at subsonic velocities, and the Barnes .458 x 1.5" briefly saw service in Vietnam in the Special Operations community. These measures are hopefully temporary and will not be needed for long as we enjoy the interaction with our customers, so please, for the time being, be mindful of all those others who are also trying to get ammo during what I think is a societal meltdown/emergency. UPC #: 816874023324. Pistol Loads | Rifle Loads | How to Reload | Reloading Gear | Contact, Pistol Loads | Rifle Loads | How to ReloadReloading Gear | Contact, Pistol LoadsRifle LoadsHow to ReloadReloading GearContact, Copyright 2023 Reload Ammo Built with by Edward KadoPrivacy Policy | Cookie Policy | Terms of Service | Amazon Affiliate Disclosure, Copyright 2023Reload AmmoBuilt with by Edward KadoPrivacy PolicyCookie PolicyTerms of ServiceAmazon Affiliate Disclosure. Save my name and email to use for future comments. The initial prototypes used the .50 AE cases which has a large pistol primer pocket. Our mission is to help you improve your skills, save money, and achieve greater accuracy with your reloads. Now, that last part is a bit more, shall we say, variable, than the others. I use the guns. Share your opinion with others, be the first to write a review. At the time, the .499 LWR cartridge wasstill in development phase and had not been chambered commercially. The 300-grain roundoffers a muzzle velocity 1,900 fps. Strictly Business. Please sit tight. The .458 is like any other bottlenecked rifle cartridge, so youll have to lube cases for resizing. We have LOTS of ammo in stock and are making more at a huge volume on a daily basis. You know, the lads who now sport beards, go to dusty places and bring surprises to the miscreants they meet. The Lancer 20 round 5.56 magazine holds seven SOCOM rounds and the 30 round 5.56 magazine will hold nine. If our web site allows you to order any item, that means it is in stockWE DO NOT TAKE ORDERS FOR ITEMS WE DO NOT HAVE! And magazines are simple: You use regular AR mags. This 500 gr. Please check local laws before ordering. The project sponsor set forth a number of specific requirements that led tothe ultimate design as it stands right now: The cartridge had to fit in theM-4 platform and magazines, be capable of firing heavy-for-caliber projectilesat subsonic velocity using suppressors. I figure that it'll be possible to make an unsuppressed upper if the performance is truly that bad for lighter rounds. Go ahead, nickname your .458 SOCOM AR-15 Thumper. Thats what it doeson both ends. Performance was flawless with full weight retention and petals opening up to 1.5" and they all stayed intact. Its projectiles range from 250-600 grains and are loaded to both super and subsonic velocity. The 458 SOCOM (aka: 11.5x40mm RB) is a large caliber cartridge designed for use on the AR15/M4 platform. Test Barrel: TROMIX 16" 1:14. I am revisiting the issue this AM. The initial talks with US special operations community directed the development of this cartridge There are several options available for receiving notifications of new posts to include via email, push notifications, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Discord, and more. they are .4585 currently. DuraMag makes .458-specific magazines, and the rounds are single-stack in the tube (as in any AR-sized magazine) but with .458-shaped feed lips and follower. Based on the favorable reviews, commercial production was started and the initial rifles were produced by Tromix. The cartridge itself is a powerhouse and was developed specifically to take down large, dangerous game, while still being usable from the M4/AR15 platform (a unique upper receiver would be needed). Full.Lead.Taco 100% 4.34K Views 9 Likes November 9, 2018 By Full.Lead.Taco 8 Comments Links to the bullet molds: 500 gr shortened version 600 gr MOAB bullet mold without crimp groove Full.Lead.Taco I love guns, tacos, and lead. You dont have to invest in special, proprietary buffer weights or springs. About the .458 SOCOM flat nosed hard cast bullet features a gas checked, very hard bullet that will not lead foul your barrel and will not foul your gas port. The .458 SOCOM - 530 grain bullet is constructed of a pure lead core thatis segmented in the nose of the bullet. The likely candidate that was up in the rotation was a Hi-Lux 1-4 in a LaRue QD mount. (10 Gauge Coach Gun), GRTools Reloading simulation software for free. Look at these big fat pills!! Buddy Singleton from Southern Ballistic Research, LLC (SBR) in NO, large rifle primers are taller than large pistol primer. In addition to law enforcement and military applications, 458 SOCOM ammo has become a very popular hunting cartridge for medium and large game. Weight - 528 grains BC G1 1,050 fps (calculated) - 0.915 Length - 1.950 Design velocity - 1,050 These. Marty contacted me, Buddy Singleton, at Southern Ballistic Research, LLC (SBR) in Brunswick, GA, and asked me to develop factory loaded ammunition for the 458 SOCOM. You can download a copy of the cartridge print directly from the CIP website, or click here to download a pdf copy. It was developed by Marty ter Weeme, founder of Teppo Jutsu LLC in 2000. the cartridge. It had to use standard AR-15 magazines. More results: Previous Page 1 2 3 Next Page View All. In addition to law enforcement and military applications, 458 SOCOM ammo has become a very popular hunting cartridge for medium and large game. Consent is not a condition of any purchase. I am looking for subsonic loads for this new to me caliber. You have successfully joined our subscriber list. More on that in a bit. I developed a load in my 458 socom with this projectile going 1025 fps. Upon impact the nose explodes. The 300-grain (19 g) round offers a supersonic muzzle velocity of 1,900 ft/s (580 m/s) and 2,405 ftlbf (3,261 J), [1] similar to a light .45-70 but with a much smaller case. CIP in Europe. Brass and dies are readily available and there's a huge selection of bullets. For hunting medium to large game, bullets in the 250 grain- 400 grain weight range possess devastating killing power. had to work on the AR15/M4 platform with little modifications. History Inspired by a supposed lack of power offered by the 5.56 NATO cartridge used in the M4 and the M16, the .458 SOCOM came about from informal It was developed by Marty ter Weeme, founder of Teppo Jutsu LLC in 2000. ( 2) Write a Review Q&A (1) Our Price: $72.99. ), (See note on Powders below or read all about various Powders.). Also, in late 2020, the CIP Committee reached out to SBR about the 458 SOCOM, and in November 2021 the 458 SOCOM was CIP approved. By entering your phone number and submitting this form, However, case capacity can become an issue with bulky rifle powders.If I can find some loads with 2400, that might be a good experiment. H322 because only 73.3% burn in barrel, and if a supressor is used it will fill up with unburnt powder. 458 SOCOM (Short Barrel Optimized), 450 GR FMJ-SUBSONIC, 20 RDS. His loads have been successfully tested and used by others for more than 25 years. reviews, commercial production was started and the initial AR uppers and rifles were produced ($3.65 per round) We recommend this twist rate if you plan to use a suppressor to eliminate the chance of a baffle strike. You are going to get what you ordered. The .458 SOCOM feeds flawlessly from many standard unmodified 5.56 AR magazines. Based on the favorable For hunting medium to large game, bullets in the 250 grain 400 grain weight range possess devastating killing power. DONATE. A 600-grain JSP (which has no hope whatsoever of expanding, just to be clear) in the subsonic velocity region becomes an entertaining range time. Its also as big as you can make the AR-15 bolt face and still have enough locking lug metal left to be safe to shoot your rifle. More results: 1 2 3 Next Page View All. Yeah this is going to limit the rounds I will be able to successfully use, but I prefer for it to be quiet. This is achieved by installing a 458 bolt and barrel. But the .458 is my home defense gun. 16 In 1:8 Twist Barrel With a 570 Grain @lehighdefense Controlled Fracturing Subsonic Bullet @ 870 FPS. Brass Monolithic 20rds In Stock $ 54.99 Add to Cart 458 SOCOM 300gr. Known as the .458 x 1.5-inch Barnes, it was the predecessor to the .458 SOCOM. Thanks for the speedy reply. These cartridges are equipped with an ultra heavy-weight 550-grainfull metal jacketed bullet, which is the heaviest 458 SOCOM bullet that SBR produces. Great round. The SOCOM is also capable of launching 500- 600 grain bullets at subsonic velocities for suppressed or tactical use. I can get .458 1:8" twist barrel blanks made from a number of places. The fragmenting design of these bullets reduce the chance of ricochet. If that latter number looks familiar, it is. There's plenty of other choices in lighter super sonic weights for hunting though. 458 SOCOM Subsonic Loads (Slow Heavy Hard Hitters! special operations community regarding the apparent lack of effectiveness of the 5.56 x 45 LilGun (use between 28.5 gr. . History [ edit] Based on the favorable reviews, commercial production was started and the initial rifles were produced by Tromix. In Stock. Required fields are marked *. The big heavy, long bullets need more twist to be stable at that low of a speed. If you then team it up with a suppressor like the Wilson Combat Whisper (which is built to withstand the .458 HAMR, so no worries about your .458 SOCOM), then you wont even need hearing protection. Yowza! So, they chose the .458-inch bullet diameter. Where the .458 SOCOM gets to be giddy fun is when you go with heavyweight subsonics. First designs used the 8 x 68 S case, as it shares the rim diameter of the .50AE and is non-rebated. Our extensive testing has found the Lancer L5 AWM magazine to be optimal for this round. Underwood Ammunition 458 SOCOM 500 Grain Hard Cast Lead Flat Nose Gas Check Subsonic Box of 20. I have a 16" 458 put together now and have a SBR 458 I am almost finished with. We have found that the .458 SOCOM offers peak downrange performance when firing the purpose built Barnes 300 grain TAC TX bullet in the 1750fps 1800fps velocity range. It was shown as effective in terms of ballistics, firing a 500 grainbullet subsonically, but not ideally suited for its role due to the size andweight of the platform. The required barrel twist rate for stability with a muzzle velocity of 1,050 fps is 1:10. Smaller diameter cartridge bases, such as the 5.56mm, can have a higher All shooters are being inconvenienced with what is happening to our society and the rush it is causing on ammo supplies. Then, plug the Brownells .458 SOCOM barrel into the upper, tighten the barrel nut (tight-loose-tight-loose-tight to alignment), install a gas tube into a gas block and then install that and tighten it into place. Maximum firepower ammo. Pick the handguard back off the bench, install, align, tighten. And I eat tacos. and 30.0 gr. Subsonic Maker Solid Copper Hollow Point (SCHP) $ 74.99 Add to Cart 458 SOCOM 250gr. We have hundreds of customers to get orders to on a daily basis.
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